the land owner has been very kind to let us go in. we have to sign a paper that releases him of any liability. thats about it. trust me you don't want in there with the ticks and chiggers, not to mention snakes at this time. we will see as fall comes. i have no trouble going if a group would like to go again. just keep watch on the board, cause it can happen at a seconds notice. but it will be fall for me for sure. if someone eles want to contact the owner and see about going, feel free to it won't hurt my feelings.